Safety & legal
Terms of Service
The deal between you and us, in plain language. Please read it, because by making an account you agree to it.
1. About these terms
Grumble is run by Aternix (ABN 85 475 523 046), Victoria, Australia ("we", "us"). You can reach us through our contact page or at admin@aternix.com. These terms are an agreement between you and us about using Grumble, meaning the apps, the website and the servers we run. Our Community Rules are part of these terms. Our Privacy Policy explains what we keep and why.
2. Who can use Grumble
You need to be at least 13. When you sign up, you pick whether you're under 13, 13 to 15, 16 or 17, or 18 or over, and you agree to tell the truth. Picking under 13 ends sign-up.
Australian law sets protections for younger people, and Grumble follows them. People under 18 start with DMs from friends only, which they can change, and age-restricted channels stay closed to them. Adults can't start private conversations with anyone under 16 unless the under-16 turns on “My parent or carer is OK with adults contacting me”.
Grumble isn't offered in the UK, Brazil, Turkey, Mississippi or Tennessee, and you need to be 18 in Nebraska and 16 in Ohio, because of their laws (why). Connecting from those places, Grumble tells you so instead of letting you sign up or log in.
3. Your account
- You sign in with your username and password. Logins never use an email address or phone number, and your password never reaches us, so we can't recover your account for you. If you forget your password, the 12 recovery words you got at sign-up set a new one. Keep your password and your words safe.
- If you sign up in Australia, the law asks for an email address too, which you confirm with a code we email you. It's used only as our Privacy Policy says.
- You're responsible for what happens on your account. Keep your password and any bot tokens secret.
- Don't use someone else's account without their permission, and don't sell or hand over accounts.
4. The rules
You agree to follow the Community Rules. In particular, you must not use Grumble, or let your account, server or bot be used, to ask for, look at, share or store any of the following.
Never permitted
This is what Australian law calls class 1A material. It is never allowed on Grumble, anywhere:
- child sexual exploitation material: sexual or sexualised material involving anyone under 18, real or not;
- pro-terror material: material that promotes, instructs in or recruits for terrorist acts;
- extreme crime and violence material: real material showing murder, torture, rape or other extreme violence, made or shared to promote or incite it.
Also not permitted
This is what Australian law calls class 1B material. It isn't allowed either, though talking about these subjects (in the news, history, fiction, education or harm reduction) is fine:
- crime and violence material: detailed instructions for, or promotion of, serious crime or violence;
- drug-related material: detailed instructions for making illegal drugs, or promotion of their use.
Intimate images
Never share intimate images of someone without their consent, including fake or AI-made ones, and never threaten to. If it's you in the image, report it in the app or use our contact page. The image is hidden from everyone straight away while we look at it, and we remove it within 48 hours of a valid request, along with copies we can find.
Adult content and under-18s
Legal adult content is only allowed between adults who want it, as the Community Rules describe. You must never share pornography or other sexual content with anyone under 18.
If you run a server or a bot
You must make sure it isn't used in breach of these terms, and that the people in it follow them. Remove material that breaks them when you see it, and don't run a server or bot for anything they forbid.
5. What we can do if the rules are broken
If you break these terms, we can do any of the following, as seems right for what happened:
- remove or delete material, or limit who can see it;
- restrict what you can do on Grumble, for a set time;
- suspend your account for a set time;
- end this agreement and close your account for good;
- delete a server you own.
If your account, server or bot is used for child sexual exploitation material or pro-terror material, we will remove it straight away and close the accounts involved. Where the law requires it, or someone's life or safety is at risk, we report it to the police.
How we moderate
- People on our safety team look at reports and notices and decide what to do. We don't use automated tools to judge the messages people write.
- A few things are automatic. Files are compared, as they're uploaded, with the fingerprints of illegal files (such as child sexual abuse material) we've removed before or that recognised lists give us, and matching files are refused and our safety team is told who tried. A search for child sexual abuse material gets a warning instead of results. An image reported as an intimate image shared without consent is hidden from everyone until our safety team decides.
- Server owners and moderators look after their own servers, under their own rules on top of ours. They may use AutoMod to block or flag words they choose.
- We remove terrorist content as soon as we know about it, and within an hour of a removal order from an authority in the EU.
- When we act on your message, account or server, we tell you what we did and why, in the Safety Centre or, if your account is suspended, when you try to log in. You can ask us to look again, and someone other than whoever decided will. If you reported something, we tell you what we decided, and you can ask for a review too.
6. Your content
What you post is yours. You give us permission to store it, copy it and deliver it to the people you send it to, only so Grumble works. When you delete it, it's gone from Grumble, except a copy kept if someone reported it (see the Privacy Policy), a copy in a server's AutoMod alert if its moderators set one up, and our backups, which are replaced within 30 days. Direct messages, servers and calls are end-to-end encrypted, so we can't read or hear them.
We never use your content for advertising, sell it, or use it to train AI.
Only post what you have the right to post. If you believe something on Grumble infringes your copyright, send a notice through our contact page (you don't need an account) and we'll look into it.
7. Bots and apps
You can build bots and apps that use Grumble's API. They must follow these terms, keep their tokens secret, and only use what people choose to share with them. We can remove an app or bot that breaks these terms or puts people at risk.
8. The service
- Grumble is free. There are no paid tiers.
- We work hard to keep Grumble running and safe, but we can't promise it will always be available or free of faults, and we may change or stop features. If we ever close Grumble, we'll tell you in the app at least 30 days before, so you can download your data.
- Nothing in these terms takes away rights you have under the Australian Consumer Law or other laws that can't be excluded. Apart from those rights, and to the extent the law allows, we aren't liable for indirect or consequential loss, and we provide Grumble as it is.
9. Leaving Grumble
You can delete your account at any time in the app's account settings (hand over or delete any servers you own first). Your messages, files and profile go with it, for good. Australian law requires us to keep one thing, a note of the username you signed up with and when (with the email address you confirmed, if you signed up in Australia), until two years after you signed up.
10. Changes to these terms
We may update these terms. If a change matters, we'll tell you in the app at least 30 days before it applies, unless the law requires a change sooner or a change is needed to keep people safe. If you keep using Grumble after that, the new terms apply. If you don't agree, you can delete your account.
11. The law that applies
These terms are governed by the law in force in Victoria, Australia, and the courts of Australia can hear any dispute about them. If you live somewhere whose consumer laws protect you whatever a contract says, such as the EU, you keep those protections and can bring a claim in your own country's courts.
12. Questions and complaints
To report something, or complain about how Grumble keeps people safe, use the Safety Centre in the app (Settings → Safety Centre). Anyone, with or without an account, can also use our contact page to report illegal content, get intimate images taken down, send a copyright notice, appeal a suspension, ask about their data, or reach us as an authority. We acknowledge complaints within 24 hours and resolve them within 7 days. If you're not happy with how we handled a complaint, you can contact eSafety, Australia's online safety regulator, or the regulator where you live.